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Morning Token 04 📦 Open source

Open models reportedly lose their security skills, and their values get retrained

Follow-up to Sunday Nov 1: Claude locks more doors: games, reverse engineering, bigger models

Last Sunday, we saw Claude block more reverse engineering and game cloning. Now a post on r/LocalLLaMA says open-weight labs are doing it too. Open-weight models are the ones anyone can download and run on their own computer. The author says Kimi K3.1 and Tencent's Hy4 remove cybersecurity, reverse engineering and vulnerability-patching skills. This is one user's claim; our sources have no answer from the labs.

The worry is for defenders. People who check their own code for weak spots on their own hardware could lose good tools and be pushed to closed models.

The same week brought a different fight about what is inside a model. NousResearch released Arete-27B, a retrained version of Alibaba's Qwen3.8-27B. Nous says it saw refusals, deflections and "CCP-framed answers" on politically sensitive topics, and trained the model "to reinforce western values".

Why it matters

Every model ships with choices about what it can do and what it believes, and users rarely see them. It is the same question as Apple Intelligence on Qwen in China: who decides what gets filtered? I take no side between countries, but I want those choices written down and tested in the open.

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